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Postby Aram Schlosberg » Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:08 am

So, if I understand correctly – there is no problem if the drift comes straight down the line and if you mess up that’s your fault (no one is holding a gun to your head).

OK, if that’s the case suppose each flier can secretly choose a permanent (non-rotating) pole on the always-used start line at Lost Hills. The majority would choose poles in the middle third. No one would select a pole in the eastern part, and a few might select poles on the western part, but there is some risk of a westerly drift. Evidently, the line orientation does make a BIG difference.

I’m not looking upon this as an excuse for not making the team (I’ve raise this issue well in advance in this thread). Instead, considering the contest/Finals as a whole, were being down/up wind on a line increases/decreases the probability of maxing. In general, the better fliers do take advantage of such information – and why not – it’s a public good for those down line. And, as noted above, a Finals with the drift down the line is really testing fliers skills in piggybacking (even though they might not admit it).

I happen to have suggested rotating the line before the Finals to Jim Parker who rebuffed me saying said it was "not in the program". Buzz Avrill thought it was a great idea, but was barred from implementing one by the Team Selection overview subcommittee on Thursday morning. During the Finals I pointed to Buzz and to Dan Tracey that the drift was coming down the line but Buzz said that our only alternative was to move to the line across ‘death valley’. Had I insisted and brought up a formal protest we might have moved, making everyone really unhappy – including me.

(Whether the oversight team selection subcommittee has the authority to micro manage line placements at the Finals is another question. It will definitely be brought up in December.)
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Postby Bill Shailor » Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:57 am

Having had a bad prop fold on the first round and stalling all the way to the ground, I was able to watch the day without the pressure of being in contention. What I saw was drift coming down the line, but groups of models all going off together and all missing the max. In other words, fliers piggy-backed off a model that either wasn't in good air from the start or whatever lift the first guy went on deteriorated. The only other round I dropped that day was when I piggybacked off someone. We both missed the max. So what I learned from this is that regardless of where the line runs in relation to the wind, the best plan is to pick your own lift.
If there were more max-outs, I'd say there's cause for concern. But with only four guys staying clean, I'd say it isn't a problem
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Postby Charlie Jones » Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:39 am

Aram,

thank you for the reply, I now better understand your issue.
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