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10/26/2006 at 1:30 am #40534
Dean McGinnes
ParticipantAny of you folks out there have any experience with these engines?
I think they are new engines.
Just looking for an alternative to the usual.
Would possibly they be eligible to be included as Nostalgia engines such as the Cox Medallions or Killer Bees? They appear to be of “period” technology.
10/26/2006 at 4:06 am #43604Anonymous
InactiveDean these are CS engines rebadged, if you know what I mean-ie the standard sport/stunt CS engine with the Brodak logo on the case rather than CS. I have the 049 (blue head-the 061 is red) but have not run it yet. Feedback from others I’ve spoken to here (NZ) is than it is optimised for stunt rather than performance, so probably puts them in the league of a Cox Medallion-probably better on a 6×3 rather than anything smaller. Handling may well be better, and they use standard glowplugs, plus spares are cheap-which might be a consideration. What the rework potential is I don’t know-it might be worth checking on rcuniverse and see what has been said on the forums there…..
ffkiwi
10/26/2006 at 11:46 am #43605Anonymous
InactiveHi Dean
If you want info on the Brodak engines, go to the Stuka Stunt forum (http://www.clstunt.com) and you will find more details there. I believe that some have been modified to take Nelson plugs with better results.
Perhaps Dan (Dankar) should jump in here as he is a regular on that forum.
Ployd
11/26/2006 at 5:29 am #43606Anonymous
InactiveI have read from field results that stock Brodak small engines are not as powerful as Cox counterparts. With Nelson plugs/ Galbreath head they come close. Also up the nitro. I had bad experience with CS engines but maybe problems have been improved. RCU has Norvells listed all the time. There are tons of Cox engines around . I like this site and also Stuka Stunt. clspeed.com is another. Even diehard FF folks can benifit from other forms of modeling. We share alot of similar trates. Good engines and lite airframes/ covering/paint/ props etc.
Even ebay can render good engines. Look for lots of engines, some listed as parts. Often there are some small engines thrown in. I got a nice Black Widow that was added as an extra with some Super Tigre parts. It was stiff but heat gun and Marvel oil freed it up in 30 seconds.
Cheers,Dan11/26/2006 at 7:47 pm #43607Anonymous
InactiveI bought a Brodak 049 to replace a TD in a little CL stunter, mainly because it came with a muffler. After trying a few fuel / prop combos, I put the TD back in. In my opinion, the TD has much more power and handles better. I just have to put up with the noise. While I wouldn’t consider the Brodak 049 a 1/2a contender, or a replacement for the TD, it’s still a worthwhile motor and would be useful for sport/vintage flying where a muffled motor might make a field near built up areas usable……..
11/27/2006 at 3:00 am #43608DAN BERRY
ParticipantThere is a Mark 2 049 in the works. I am expecting delivery soon. Its ten clams more and is reported to make power equal to a TeeDee. If thats all true, then durability will be the clincher.
03/01/2007 at 1:00 pm #43609Dean McGinnes
ParticipantHey Dan!!
Have you run that Mark 2 yet?
03/01/2007 at 2:27 pm #43610DAN BERRY
ParticipantTime, time, time!
Weather,weather,weather!
Temps are getting into 70’s now, so I can’t use that excuse much longer. Of course, it could change quickly enough.
I’m gonna try it this weekend, though.03/03/2007 at 4:18 am #43611DAN BERRY
ParticipantThe Brodak o49 mk11 doesn’t fit any of my 1/2 mounts. I’ll need to cobble up something to mount it to.
70 degrees today. Supposed to freeze tonight. 25 mph winds all weekend. I don’t know if my tachs will work under these conditions.03/05/2007 at 5:05 am #43612JLorbiecki
ParticipantOh yeah, well we have 20″ of snow and its 20 degrees…But, supposed to get all the way to 40 this week…Needless to say, I have not test flown anything yet…I really feel for ya Dan!!! Tach won’t work…WAH WAH WAH….
03/05/2007 at 12:18 pm #43613Dean McGinnes
ParticipantWell…
We are having a real problem down here in Florida. The winter has been so warm I have to cut the grass nearly every week. 😆 😆
03/05/2007 at 1:49 pm #43614DAN BERRY
ParticipantWisconsin is of course an ancient Indian word which roughly translates to
Yike! I’m cold!Dean,I don’t do too much mowing. If I can’t eat it or make a centerpiece for the dinner table with it, I don’t want it in the yard.
I broke the Brodak Mk11 049. I believe it was my fault, not the engine.
03/05/2007 at 7:54 pm #43615Dean McGinnes
ParticipantWell gee, give us something to hang our hats on. How did it break. How fast was it turning.
03/05/2007 at 11:31 pm #43616DAN BERRY
ParticipantIt ran about 4 primes and the piston seized. I wasn’t using the specified fuel, of which I had none. I never got past burning a prime to get a needle setting. I must state emphatically that I—me, no one helped, all by lonesome
did wrong.Apparently, the very specific instructions must be adhered to. I did not do so. I do wonder about the engines suitability for us Free Flighters, given our proclivity to things like nitromethane, hot rodding engines, ignoring instruction manuals,…… well, you get my point.
03/17/2007 at 3:11 am #43617Timer Guy
ParticipantThat is a bummer, Dan. Bob Stalick told me he just bought one but had not run it.
I now have a radial mount for the Brodak engine. Same hole pattern as the other mounts I make.
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