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  • #41733
    Dick Bertrand
    Participant

    I’ve been out of it for awhile—-
    Can I fly an F1A qualified glider also in Classic?
    Can I fly a classic gas job also in AMA gas?
    Thermals,Dick Bertrand
    Guatemala

    #51701
    Dean McGinnes
    Participant

    Yes to both. The F1A will be a bit heavy, and you can’t circle tow or bunt. The Classic Gas will be at a disadvantage to a long wing bunter in AMA gas, but they are still rare.

    #51702
    Dick Bertrand
    Participant

    Thanks Dean,

    I enjoy the disadvantage! Can’t circle tow or bunt anyways at 79, even though my gliders have circle tow hooks.
    Using just my thermal detector at the 1987 WFFC in France, we got better times than 10 other countries.
    Represented Guatemala.
    Plan to do better in 2013.
    You going to be at the Nats?

    Thermals,

    Dick Bertrand in Guatemala

    #51703
    Dean McGinnes
    Participant

    Yes Dick, I plan to be at the NATS.

    Just moved lock stock & barrel from Florida to Alabama and my model stuff is still packed in boxes. Still have to get my workbenches reassembled. Next step is to repair the damage from the last NATS which was the last time I flew.

    #51704
    Dick Bertrand
    Participant

    Great, what do you plan to fly?

    #51705
    Dean McGinnes
    Participant

    Dick, I usually fly Nos Gas and some Classic.

    #51706
    Dick Bertrand
    Participant

    sEE YOU THERE!

    #51709
    Dick Bertrand
    Participant

    Hi Dean,
    We somehow missed each other at the Nats last year.
    I’ll be going again this year, Will camp out in the “primitive camping” area and flying all events parked next to Bob Hanford.

    I’ll be flying F1A, Classic Towline, A Gas, B Gas and AB Classic Gas.

    Are you goling?

    A question to everyone: what’s the best angle for the towhook to have related to the CG?
    Last year I had great difficulty getting my glider up (not running like I used to) and I’d like to invent a simple attachment to the hook or ring to effectively move the hook backwards without actually unscrewing it, since that then requires a complicated re-setting of the line to the rudder. This is keeping me awake!
    Any comments? I hope i’m explaining myself adequately.

    Thermals,

    Dick Bertrand
    Guatemala

    #51710
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Dick,

    The standard cg to hook position on normal F1A is .70″ to .75″.
    Another method is to use 17 degree from the CG (at bottom of the wing) down and forward to the hook /ring position.

    If there is room on your hook, some flyers have secured a spacer in the front, secured with kevlar thread to effectively moving the ring / hook rearward.

    JIM

    #51711
    Dean McGinnes
    Participant

    Dick,

    Just saw your post. You are probably on your way already. I will arrive Friday night. I fly with the same gang so hopefully we won’t miss each other. I will be flying the same gas events as you, and some Nos Gas as well. See you in a few days.

    #51712
    Dick Bertrand
    Participant

    Thanks Jim and Dean,

    Jim, the spacer in front is certainly the way to go. Not sure how the kevlar thread reinforced spacer works, but I’ll figure it out ! I forgot that several years ago I hot stuffed a strip of wood in front of the hook but it popped off on tow. I see now the need for the kevlar thread reinforcement.

    Dean, it’ll be great to meet up! I come in on Saturday or Sunday depending on whether I use my daughters car or have to rent one.
    Delta says they’ll let me carry on my 56″ model box and store it in the first class wardrobe closet!!!

    Thermals,

    Dick Bertrand in Guatemala

    #51708
    Dean McGinnes
    Participant

    Dick,

    I sent you an email with my cell number.

    #51707
    Dick Bertrand
    Participant

    OK Dean,
    I’ll look for it. I just got in to my daughter’s place last night and I’ll be driving down on Saturday. See you there!
    Dick

    #51713
    Dick Bertrand
    Participant

    Thanks for your help at the Nats, Dean!
    Dick

    #51714
    Dean McGinnes
    Participant

    You’re welcome. Hope you had a great NATS experience and a safe trip home.

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