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I am looking for examples of gliders that performed well in the category of Classic Open Towline Gliders. I would like to build a database of characteristic (Planform Surface Areas, Weight, Airfoils, Span, Aspect Ratios, Fuselage length, etc.) I am looking for at least 6 examples of good contest performers. Thanks.
I am not an expert in any sense of the word, but I think the Buddenbohm Sidekick fits the bill. At Muncie at the Nats, I got excited and blew the first flight [2 minutes], but then made the 3 and 4 minute flights. Great flying airplane and easy to build light.
I agree that Stan’s Side Kick is great. He is no longer kitting it and I think he sold the rights to someone.
Tim
Don DeLoach has announced the availability of the Super Talon Classic Glider.
After consulting with the original designer, Reid Simpson, he has put together a very complete short kit. Probably a misnomer because all you have to furnish is a timer, some wire bits, some LE & TE and scrap balsa. The kit contains a CF spar and tail boom and other refinements.
Contact Don at ddloach@comcast.net
I already sent him my check!!!
Without being conversant with the Classic glider rules I take it that “open” means just that in which case why limit yourself to an old A/2 especially if you intend to create a model from scratch. I would take one of these old designs (my favourites are the AL 29 and Sans Eagel) and enlarge them by 5 to 7%. There’s no substitue for square inches 😀
Ployd
Don’s Super Talon has been enlarged.
Span = 96″
Area (wing flat)= 617 sq”, 596 projected
Total projected Area=705 sq” wing + stab
Weight = 13.5 ounces/383 grams.
I know FIA has a 410 gram minumum weight, what is the max area?
~Jim496 to 527 square inches, wing and stab combined. Or, for you metrically-minded, 32 to 34 square decimeters.
Thanks Bill.
The Super Talon area with the stab is a whopping 705 square inches projected. I had to buy one based on looks. I have an original unbuilt Talon on my kit shelf. I have alwaysd loved the looks of it. Don has three kits left unspoken for at this point.$135 gets you the short kit, the spar set, and the plans shipped. in Don’s words:
“The short kit will include all wing and stab ribs, curved trailing edge parts, curved forms for laminating the stab and wing LEs, a TON of gussets, all fuselage pod parts, stab mount, rudder/fin, rudder control horn, rudder adjusters.
Spar set will include four sections of tubular carbon wing spar, chopped carbon fiber for joining the spars, carbon wing wire, and tapered carbon tailboom.
It really went together quickly and easily—about 10 hours for what you see above. I realized while building the prototype that this “short kit” is very nearly a complete kit. The only parts that aren’t included (besides the timer) are about $10 worth of stuff: straight TEs, LEs, and a couple of stab spars, some wire, monofilament and a few little odds and ends like screws.”
~jim
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Ah, now we are talk’n, the St Albans 96A open glider from Aeromodeller (1963?) or perhaps a reduces size Thermalist, Sunspot or Thunderking would be worth considering 😀
Ployd
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>Max wing area for a Classic is 750 square inches!
A small correction – it’s 750 sq. ins. TOTAL area.
Me, I wish it had been truly ‘Open Glider’ so that I could have built the fullsize “Walkin’ Shoes” again instead of reducing it to 80%. Fifty years to produce a Mk2 …. here’s the original, taken from an old and somewhat faded slide.
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