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The new Nostalgia rule book mentions globee type heads are acceptable for Cox 020’s. Where are these available, as they must be to be acceptable?
Unless I am way out of tune, that has to be a mistake. There never was a GloBee head for the TD 020. Was one for the 049, but that is not a NOS engine anyway. I am not aware of any place you can buy GloBee plugs/heads legal or not.
John Lorbieki, speak up.
The TD 020, and the PeeWee 020 are the only engines good enough for 1/4A NOS.
I misread your statement. I think that you were saying that the TD 049 is not NOS legal, but of course the TD 020 is.
But then how do you figure that is really NOS gas???
I think 1/4 A NOS gas should be restricted to the PeeWee 020 since it is a reed engine, but then how do you say that modern reed engines are NOS legal? The PeeWee 020 did not come out until 1958 which is out of the NOS time frame, along with the Cox medallion, etc. I think NOS was really kind of screwed up early on with the committee that governed it, but I appreciate being able to fly NOS models with REAL NOS engines.
Has to be, Dan. Wow, I did not know any of them were made for sale. How does it run? By any chance, are the VA head interchangable with Cox? Hmmmm, I wonder if it really is legal? It is not really available and never was. Sort of like a home made engine. I thought they were heavy compared to a TD. Are they? You may have a real rare engine.
If the TD 020 makes the 1/4 NOS event more fun, then how about TD 049s in 1/2A. They are no more powerful than the good Thermal Hoppers, but would be a lot more obtainable and easier to run.
Ah, come one, let it go! Use the Fox FAI Special. Legal, no more costly than the TD, and a good runner. Plus, readily available. And so are the heads.
That ain’t no NOS period engine either.
Who is making up these goofy rules!!
Why not produce some more NOS engines today, like a Cyclon NOS engine??? Makes just about as much sense.
@Dan Berry wrote:
Jackie and I both have one. It seems to run fine.
Some guys have all the luck. Are they still being sold? Did the Russians make a diesel version, too?
@DaveEdmonson wrote:
That ain’t no NOS period engine either.
Who is making up these goofy rules!!
Why not produce some more NOS engines today, like a Cyclon NOS engine??? Makes just about as much sense.
Have you volunteered to be on the Nostalgia Committee? That is the best way to let your feelings be known, not on this forum.
I for one respect the work the volunteers do. Yes, I fully know George Aldrich did not agree with all the engine rules, either, and he was unable to effect a change.
Sure, being able to use a new Tower Hobbies enigne would be nice, but I do not see a real problem obtaining decent old engines at resonable prices today. There are a heck of a lot more good old engines than there are NOS fliers.
I have plenty of NOS engines, a lot of them I purchased as a kid back in 1954 to 1956 when I was building these designs.
I think that only real NOS engines should be used if you fly this event, but that is only my opinion. Yes, there certainly are more engines out there than all of the current and future NOS flyers can ever use.
For example, I don’t think the Holland Hornet came out before 1957, and I certainly don’t remember running to the hobby shop to purchase a Fox 049 with my paper route money, all of which was spent on model supplies.
I have worked with the NOS committee in getting the Hustler approved, but only after the designer had given up with the old committee.
You are right Hank, this discussion should be under another heading, like rules changes and event proliferation.
Well, agree for a change!
I have no real knowledge of dates, etc., but think Duke Fox pulled the FAI Special off the market due to an agreement with Leroy Cox to split up the market. So, it may have been there, but not being sold. Dates be ignored, I feel the legalization of the Fox engine came about because the 1/2A event had turned into a have/have not event. Those who had Holland engines had too great of an advantage and Hollands were rare and costly. So, the Fox motor leveled the field. To a certain extent. It is not as good as a good TD IMMHO. But, good enough to compete with a Holland.
Early NOS just lets guys use the old weaker engines that are very inexpensive and still fly the old plane designs. Even then, the Cub 049X is better than the others. If you can find one. And guys good with a Dremel tool can make a weak one scream. 🙂
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