Learning rubber

[Anonymous]

I am an x-CL Racer and am getting into Rubber FF and would like recommendation ‘s concerning written material about making up motors-lubing them-storing and breaking them in. In other words a good solid up to date book on Rubber Motors .
All help would be appreciated greatly !!

[Bill Shailor]

Welcome to the world of gumbanders!
The information you want really isn’t all that complicated. What events are you looking to fly?
We can get you started with most everything you want to know.
Bill

[Anonymous]

Hi Bill:
Would like to fly F1G =(Coupe’de Hiver) as I like the size. I know this is not a beginners event but it moves me !
Another question I have is Winders-Which one ? Dave Edmondson offers an F1G and an F1B, I am at a point where I can’t decide which one as the F1G winder will give better torque range for Coupe,but I might fly F1B after I get experienced. Is the F1B winder OK for F1G-torque wise,and what about winding to torque? I hear that F1B’s for instance like to be wound to torque. As you can see I need a lot of help as rubber sounds a lot more complicated then gas motors.
I have a ton of questions !!

Matt

[DAN BERRY]

Matthew, get to Eloy. I believe next weekend is a meet. Check the Master Contest Calender on the NFFS site, under competitions. There will be guys there who can advise you. Nothing beats first hand guidance. Most FF’ers are glad to help, advise, lend,kibbitz,….well, you get the idea. Just don’t talk to them while they’re winding. You won’t get much response.

[Bill Shailor]

I agree with Dan. You would learn a lot from just watching and talking. As far as winders for Coupe go, you can use a wake winder, but the problem is that you won’t get the “feel” of when you have reached the motor’s limit. The Coupe winder Dave offers is fine. Bob Tymchek also sells some real nice winders that have torque meters incorporated with them. Generally, torque is a very important component in winding. Some think even more important than turns, especially for F1B and F1G.

[Anonymous]

Well Guys;
I guess I will get the F1G winder next month if they are still available.
Can I get an e-mail address for Tymchek as I would like to check out his winder.
Will try to attend the contest in Eloy in a couple of weeks,and thanks for the tip-don’t talk to some one who is winding.

Thanks guys,

Matt

[Bill Shailor]

Bob Tymchek also sells Gorban Coupes. Very nicely built and good fliers.
His email address is:
tymchek@best1.net
Send me a private message and I can send you his phone number.
-Bill

[Anonymous]

Hello Matthew, I’m new to this forum and you might find some answers to your question in the index available here:

http://www.vintagemodelairplane.com/pages/TipsAndTricks/AirplaneTipsTricks01.html

under “preparing rubber motors”.

It’s a very personal process which works for the type of model I fly, but it may be applicable to what you want to do.

Another (scary) story about the use and abuse of rubber motors is in another index here.

http://www.vintagemodelairplane.com/pages/Downloads/CRB_dl.html

just click on “Rara Avis” and then the PDF link.

[Norm Furutani]

Hi Mathew,
Along with the above, I suggest you join PMAC. https://freeflight.org/PMAC/index.htm

Members/officers Peter Brocks and Elmer Nelson are outstanding coupe flyers and very helpful.

– Norm

[Anonymous]

Thanks Guy’s for the info. I was going to the FF Champs here in AZ today but it rained and forcast is for rain tomorrw also.

Matt

[Peter Brocks]

Matt,

I thougt that CL guys are just as hardy as freeflighters. OK, we had some showers on Saturday at the Arizona Champs which kept some from coming but delayed the contest only for 1.5 hours. We still had a good crowd with flyers from MA, PA, IL, TX, NM, WA, OR and CA. On Sunday after 5 round there were 3 F1G/Coupe d’ Hiver flyers with all maxes. The fly-off went for another 3 rounds into the 5 min. max round which was won by a PMAC fellow.

Matt, try to come to our 2008 Soutwest Regionals at Eloy, AZ. Coupe/F1G will be flown on Sunday, Jan. 20.

Peter

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the update Peter-I plan on being there for the Regionals. Saturday here in Tucson it rained on and off all day but Sunday was not bad.

Matt

[Anonymous]

I guess I am a bit late on this post as you may have already bought a winder.
My philosophy includes;
1. Tools are never wasted and
2. You can’t take it with you when you pop your clogs.
I am fairly new to rubber (this time round) and am totally sold on F1G which I have been flying for just over a year.However I do have an F1B model.
I can easily get by with my converted Stanley hand drill with a ratio of 3.75/1 with my F1Gs.The power required is so much less that a feel for the torque is not too difficult.However with F1B a proper winder is essential as the force involved in winding is so much more.
So, if you can only afford one, get the F1B. If ,however, you are keen on trophies get both and don’t tell the wife.

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