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12/12/2007 at 8:12 pm #40748AnonymousInactive
I am rather excited by the challenge of building and flying a Nostalgia FAI design.
Has anyone begun compiling a list of designs and availability of plans for older FAI designs?
I have a list of approx 10 older designs which I will add to this thread tonight.12/13/2007 at 5:53 am #45071AnonymousInactive
Here’s my current list…
Model Builder Magazine
March 1976, ORCA, Larry Sicuranza
January 1977, Korla Plankton, Lar Olofsson
March 1979, Summer Wind, Doug Galbreath
Model Airplane News
August 1968, Night Train MK VII, George French
April 1970, RS-3, Reid Simpson
March 1975, Moonraker, Ed Carroll Jr.
April 1975, Excelsior Team Design, Dave Rounsaville
June/July 1962, FAI Hustler, Sid Jepson
June 1966, Centurion, Rodger Simpson
July 1972, Excelsior, Dave Rounsaville
November 1972, Pearl 450, Bill Chenault
March 1961, Texan FAI-Ton, Ed Miller
September 1961, Lucky Lindy III, Larry Conover
August 1967, Head Hunter, Dick Mathis12/17/2007 at 10:20 pm #45072AnonymousInactive
Some decent British designs, firstly from the 200 gram era;
Eliminator (Wheeler – w/c ’52)
Zoot Suit (Fuller – 2nd w/c ’53)
(both Elfin 1.8cc designs)
Gastove XVI (Gaster – w/c ’55 – in MAN June ’56)
Crescendo (Draper – w/c ’56 – in Zaic yearbook)
Dreamweaver (Posner – 2nd w/c ’56 – in Aeromodeller 1957)
Slick Stick (Buskell – 6th w/c ’55 – in Aeromodeller 1955)
(All 2.5c designs)
From the 300 gram era;
Veterano (Monks – NFFS model of the year ’72(?))
Night Train mk.2 (1960 – available through Freeflight supplies)
John12/17/2007 at 11:47 pm #45073gosParticipant
@John Buskell wrote:
OK, now why did that message get put up 3 times?
It’s a worry—does that to me too. Mod. will fix it.
I can recommend ORCA, as I built two together in 1976, and another in ’77, all Rossi MK2 powered.
Very good flyers, and got me into WC teams as well as Trans Tasman—-AUS V NZ several times.
The Eliminator I have built two—lost the first with a MK2 Javelin, so built the second with a Webra Rekord 1.5. They fly okay, but are only meant for a 1.5.01/07/2008 at 9:25 pm #45074AnonymousInactive
I’ve made a little progress on my Nostalgia FAI Night Train – which will have a Super Tigre G15 with a tuned pipe. This weekend I applied some glass cloth to the fuselage – previously I have used dope or Tuff-Kote fuel proofer to apply the glass. They work equally well, but stink to high heaven.
This time I used water based acryllic sanding sealer, which I have previously used for finishing HLG wings to good effect. I put a very sparing coat on the bare wood, then applied the cloth with the 2nd coat. Very easy to apply, no smell, and the brush cleans in water.
I’ve also spent a pleasurable hour or two drawing up George Fuller’s Trad Lad, as flown at Wiener Neustad in ’69. A really simple FAI model – I might even build one as a spare – piped G15, too.
John01/08/2008 at 4:49 am #45075JLorbieckiParticipant
You are my kinda guy! I loved the piped tigres. I had a Hans Seelig designed FAI model with a Tigre and an ED pipe. Not the best, but still looked cool under the wing. That particular model was crazy, as I mistakenly built three right hand wing tips! Hey, I was only 15 or 16 then and for some reason I just kept making right tips. This was also my first VIT model and I remember climbing up on the roof of the house with it. I would set the timer for about a second and throw it, just to watch the stab pop up to the glide position. Surprising that I never hit the house with it in glide.
I have a few models all ready to go for the class- 84″ sheeted wings, cowled, with a rossi and VIT- 3 fin stab and all….Plus, I know they fly as my son used them at the NATS one year. Did so-so on 5 seconds but would be great with the usual 8 seconds (or was it 7?).
Good luck!!01/08/2008 at 3:14 pm #45076Dean McGinnesParticipant
The Trad Lad interests me. Any plans source?01/08/2008 at 5:12 pm #45077AnonymousInactive
The only Trad Lad plan I’ve seen was in Free Flight News – that’s what I based my drawing on. You’re welcome to a copy, though my draftsmanship is far from perfect, and there’s quite a bit of detail missing.
I was there when George Fuller brought out the first one; it was his first FAI model for some years, and it had a very anemic Super Tigre. With everything trimmed out as good as it could be, it would do about 2:45. A couple of months later he was on the British team with it. For the champs he built a pair more, with Maibach piped G15’s. These were, of course, substantially better.
John01/08/2008 at 5:28 pm #45078AnonymousInactive
It was 7 secs – I did all my F1C flying (about 15 years or so) under the 7 sec. rules. The first champs to 7 seconds was ’77 in Denmark.
John01/09/2008 at 9:00 am #45079AnonymousInactive
“The first champs to 7 seconds was ’77 in Denmark.” Maybe they did reduced runs for the flyoffs (they certainly did in Bulgaria in ’75) but they were still running 10 seconds for the rounds at the ’82 Euro Champs in Germany I attended.01/09/2008 at 9:11 am #45080AnonymousInactive
“The first champs to 7 seconds was ’77 in Denmark.” Maybe they did reduced runs for the flyoffs (they certainly did in Bulgaria in ’75) but they were still running 10 seconds for the rounds at the ’82 Euro Champs in Germany I attended.01/09/2008 at 5:00 pm #45081AnonymousInactive
That’s weird, Chris, because the first contest I remember to 7 secs was the Richmond Gala at Bassingbourn in ’76 – even though 7 secs didn’t actually take effect until ’77.
The W/C at Taft in ’79 was a 7 sec contest – because the fly-offs were ascending maxes – diminishing engine run fly-offs (as in ’75 in Bulgaria) stuck with 3 minutes.
I started flying F1C in late ’77 and never flew a model off 10 secs – and I have never flown one off 5 either.
John01/09/2008 at 9:38 pm #45082gosParticipant
Denmark was 7 seconds for sure. I know, because I was there flying.01/10/2008 at 8:52 am #45083AnonymousInactive
How odd. I can only comment on the contests I attended and don’t dispute what you say. I remember a 5 second FO being run in Italy in ’96 which I think was a precurser to a rule change the next year (comments ?). How long until 4 seconds ?01/10/2008 at 4:29 pm #45084AnonymousInactive
Chris, this is the wrong thread to be discussing rule changes!
The Nostalgia FAI thread is where we feel good about all our old models, not where we get all riled up about the future.
The rules do need a change, though, it’s been quite a long time.
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