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01/05/2008 at 1:42 pm #40767
Meet: King Orange International, December 31, 2007
Place: Palm Bay, Florida
Flier: Richard A. Ivers
Time: 23 minutes 53 seconds
Existing Record: 18 minutes 0 seconds; Charles Groth
Record application pending with the AMA. Requires sign-off by contest CD01/07/2008 at 1:25 am #45164
Congradulations! Please share the details, model, power,ect. Do you have any photos?01/07/2008 at 2:27 am #45165
Jim, Photos of my son Richard, with his pending-record airplane, were taken at the meet by Ed Luparelli. I’ll post the pics later when I get them from him. Meanwhile, here are some details:
Airframe: Slow-Worm 432 modified for electric power
Motor: Hacker B20-12L with 4:1 planetary gearbox
Battery: Hyperion LVX lipo, 1500 mah, 2S
Prop: Aeronaut 11 x 7 folder
Controller: Phoenix 25 by Castle Creations
Timer: Homemade electronic unit (my design). Timer controls motor run and DT time.
Servo: E-Flite S75 for DT line release.
Weight: 17 oz.
This is the same model that Rich flew at this year’s NATS. I think you saw it perform. Static power draw is about 200 watts.
Dick01/07/2008 at 8:03 pm #45166
Dick, Thanks for the info. I do remember the model, it is very impressive. Did Richard start with 25 second motor runs? If my math is correct he flew 11 maxes and droped the 12th by a mere 7 seconds. If he started with 25 second motor runs then his last two maxes were with 10 second motor runs. If he started with 20 second motor runs the last two were with 5 second motor runs. What was the motor run when he droped and how big was the smile when he realized he had broken a record?01/07/2008 at 9:39 pm #45167
Jim, Richard was flying AMA event 161 (Free Flight Electric Power). It was not the FAI F1Q Electric event which was flown the day before. Therefore, the motor runs were 20 seconds for the first 3 official flights. After that, there were 3 flyoff flights with 15 second motor runs. All of the remaining flyoff flights were with 10 second motor runs. All of this is per the 2007/2008 AMA Rules, paragraph 6.1. Yes, he made eleven 120 second maxes and a final 1 minute 53 second flight. The last 6 flights were on the 10 second motor run. There was some down air on the final flight. There is not much margin to make a 2 minute flight on a 10 second motor run.
Thanks for your kind remarks.
Dick01/08/2008 at 12:14 am #45168
Awsome feat. I look forward to viewing the photos.01/18/2008 at 9:51 pm #45169CHARLES C GROTHParticipant
Congratulations, Mr. Ivers, on the class B record!02/11/2008 at 9:08 pm #45170
Yes, the new record is now official. Richard has the certificate from the AMA …… Event 161, Class B Electric, 23 minutes 53 seconds. It will take 12 maxes to beat this mark.02/12/2008 at 12:23 am #45171
I expect that you will see a record claim from Frank Pollard following this weekend’ sIsaccson Winter classic where near perfect conditions helped Frank do well into the 2 digits on the max count… on a Class B record attempt on the day After winning the F1Q event.02/14/2008 at 1:23 am #45172RICHARD IVERS JRParticipant
Hello fellow forum flyers,Congradulations to Frank.I think I must now have the new mark for the AMA record with the shortest lifespan.Does anyone what the new time is? Regards, Rich Ivers Jr.02/14/2008 at 5:00 pm #45173
I think he did 12 or 13 maxes, so it was not by all that much . Unfortunately my fellow organizer and the CD. Norm Furutani stayed up at Lost Hills for the maxmen this coming weekend and to fly in the F1E events during the week. Norm has the CD’s paperwork.
we were glad we had the latest rules because as in the write up above it is a little complicated for a simple F1B flyer with different length motor runs etc so we could get it right.
Seeing a number of peopel use my timers for F1Q I should really fly it to, I have a F1P I’m in the process of converting.
The weather was perfect with 5 minute flights landing close the flight line. If I remember correctly Frank won the F1Q, followed by Bernie Crowe and them John Oldencamp. bernie had dinged his good model triming the day before other wise would have given Frank a run for his money.
Roger02/15/2008 at 10:57 pm #45174CHARLES C GROTHParticipant
Congratulations, Frank! It’s nice when the wind don’t blow. Once when
Bob Kumferman had a DT failure, I was able to lie on my back and
watch it vanish at the zenith after 1/2 hour. From then on we tracked it
by radio and lost the signal when it landed. We found it in a cornfield a
few miles away. There must have been wind far aloft.
Chuck02/16/2008 at 2:47 pm #45175
Congradulations Frank. This is exciting stuff! Will we see the record broken again this year? Will Dick Jr. take the record back? Will Roger Morrell come on the electric scene and set a new record? Will King Chuck Groth take the record back? What about the other top electric flyers, Dick Sr., John “O”, or Vic Nipert? This is going to be an exciting year!02/18/2008 at 6:01 am #45176
I was back at Lost Hills for the Maxmen this weekend – and spoke with Frank. He did 17 Maxes for his Class B record attempt.
Frank won the F1Q at the Max men. 3 of the real high tech guys dinged their airplanes before the event. Frank was followed by Dick Wood from Arizona who flew an Oldencamp style airplane.
I have thought of flying F1Q – a number of people, not Frank, use my Black Magic timers for F1Q. I I do a have few bits and pieces so we will see but really F1B Takes all my competition time at the moment.
Roger03/20/2008 at 3:41 am #45177Norm FurutaniParticipant
Sorry, I wasn’t aware of this thread until I saw it mentioned in the 3/19/08 SEN.
Frank Pollard applied for a new Electric “B” record on 2/10/08 at the Isaacson Winter Classic. It was a weekend of perfect FF weather on the Lost Hills field. Frank ran a string of 17 maxes for a total of 34 minutes.
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