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Table of Contents – SEN 1945

  1. World Cup Scoring – Kaynes
  2. Re Dukie on C
  3. Re: 1943
  4. Proposals are Us
  5. Happy News Dept

RE: World Cup Scoring
From: Ian Kaynes
Roger

World Cup bonus point counting.

Welcome to Aram’s suggestion of World Cup counting. I still prefer the
proposal which the CIAM FFSC made in 2013 that the numbers counted for bonus
points were the number of people making flights in the first round. This had
the benefits of

– Simplicity.

– Gave the number available for all to see after the end of the
first round.

– Gave full credit to the winner if the weather deteriorated and
lots of people stopped flying

– Avoided the possibility of people who have dropped flights
changing the bonus point situation by choosing to stop flying

– Avoided the possibility of late entries during the event changing
the number. (Note that the late entry issue was not a problem in Israel with
all entries made the day before).

However, at the 2013 Technical Meeting Wilhelm Kamp opposed the change as
being only relevant in a few cases and the meeting did not give majority
support.

Ian Kaynes

Re: Dukie on F1C
From: John Buskell
Dear Roger,
Re SEN 1943, DG and F1C.
I’ve been involved in F1C since 1957 (the year of my birth!), and I’ve seen all that Doug described.
He has it right IMO. His suggestions open up the class, rather than closing it down, which is what all the rule changes have done since 1952.
If someone is prepared to frame up the DG rules ‘addendum’ and put it in the contest schedule, I’m in, I’ll fly.
I’ll help with developing the rules too, if it’ll help.
John Buskell

Re: SEN 1943
From: Ken Happersett
To: SEN
They deserve it
Ken.

Editor’s note : – we are not sure who Ken was referring to in SEN 1943 but we assume it is those who made the USA FF Team for the 2015 World

Fab Feb Packet Version 2
Dukie on F1C
For sale
Mike’s Rant
North American Flyer

Proposals Are Us
From: hiflyin01

From the second to youngest F1C flyer in the USA? (We think that Taron is the only F1C person the USA younger than Jeff, and other takers ? or has Cody flown some C ?)

I haven’t been flying as long as everyone, that I know in FAI. I have seen good and bad decisions along the way.
I have been taking in all the info. Reading the different solutions. Is there a perfect solution? Who to say.
Evolution is a process we can not stop. Being able to evolve, is what we must do.
Simple fact is that the numbers are down. Can’t find a lot of people to run contests. Performence of models is up.
If there is something that needs to be changed, we shouldn’t try and go backwards. If they want shorter contests, give it to them.
Option 1. The higher max for each round, is a good idea.
Option 2. Make it five rounds or six, then off to the fly offs.
At the end of the day, we all love to fly. If they want to change all the rules, to try and reinvent the sport. I would have leave it. I am a working man with a family to support. End of story.
I hope this does not happen.

Jeff Ellington

Happy News Dept

Well known Roumanian F1A flyer Szijjarto Szilard and Ioana Laza Got Engaged

The Isaacson Winter Classic
Hosting the Kiwi World Cup

Note that the Offical Ike flyer has a lot of information in a very compact form on one page. that format can’t be formatted for SEN so we send this slightly modified forma. You can down load the official flyer with other infornation from the links mentioned below.

Feb 7-9 2015 at Lost Hills

Join us for one of the premier West Coast Free Flight Contests! We are again hosting the Kiwi New Zealand FAI World Cup. All FAI classes are America’s Cup. AMA and NFFS classes are National Cup. This is a Cat. II contest.
12/21/2014
In memory of our dear friends, Bob and LaVera Isaacson

Re-enter by email or on the field from Register Fri. 1pm 6 Feb

Entry Fees:
“Kiwi” World Cup events $25
All others, $15.00 – includes one event. Additional events $5.00 each.
All must be current member AMA /MAAC and Lost Hills Assoc. World Cup events require an FAI License.
Awards: Sunday 4pm
Jr.-Sr. Open Class combined.
First through third, each event.
Perpetual Gollywock and Nos. Wake awards, courtesy of Bob White
Awards Ceremony and RAFFLE!
Winners MUST be present!
Additional information and Official Flyer : Go to
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2297572
or
http://www.faifreeflight.org/images/stories/contests/Fab-Feb-2015-2.zip

Saturday FAI Events
Kiwi – New Zealand World Cup!
F1A, B, C, P & Q
Round Schedule: Saturday 2/07
1 8:00am–9:00am
2 9:00am–10:00am
3 – 7 on the hour, to 3pm
Round One Maxes:
F1A 210 seconds
F1B, C&P 240 seconds
F1Q 180 seconds
Fly-Off Schedule:
Round eight, 5 minute max.
F1A 3:30pm–3:40pm
F1B 3:45pm–3:55pm
F1C/P/Q 4:00pm–4:10pm
Additional rounds to be announced
Frank Zaic Awards*
For limited function F1X models
Grand Master Award
For best performance in F1AB or C by a sportsman over 75
Roger Morrell, FAI Event Director

Sunday FAI
F1G, H, J* & S NEW!
(F1S – Proposed sm. elec. AMA E36 spec. 10s MR, 2 min. max. 5s FO MR)
*F1J – contingent on pre-entries (4- min)
Round one, 8:00 am! Champagne Flyoff! Time to the ground. Round Schedule:
Rounds 2-5, two minute max.
1 8:00am–8:45am
2 9:00am–9:45am
3 9:45am–10:30am
4 10:30am–11:15am
5 11:15am–12:00pm
Fly-Offs will begin at 12:15 noon and finish by 3:00. At 3:00, any remaining ties will be broken by using Champagne Flight Times.

Monday! “Kiwi” World Cup
Slope Soaring F1E
10:00am – 3:00 pm. Five rounds, 60 minutes each. Peter Brocks, Event Director

Monday, reserve day for FAI Events.

Contest Directors:
Norm Furutani
15423 Haas Ave.
Gardena, CA 90249
(310) 323-1943
norginf@gmail.com
Roger Morrell
1916 B Gates Ave.
Redondo Beach, CA 90278
(310) 374-2136
r_morrell@yahoo.com

Saturdays AMA Events

Gollywock One Design 3 – 3min max
Gollywock Mass Launch
Sat. Evening TBA. Everyone flies! A Bob White Event!
NOS Gas
1/4A, 1/2A & C. Separate events.
AMA Gas
C, D, Sup. D Combined. Classes will be separated for NC pts.
Saturday (continued)
Saturday Only! 8am – 5pm
The Paul MacCready Human Power World Championship for Hand Launch Glider
Cash prizes donated by Bill Vanderbeek, Bud Romak, Lee Hines and others – see additional flier
E-36 – AMA rules
E-36 World Open Mass Launch
Sat. evening-see additional flier
See E-36 World Challenge flyer for full details
NEW! E-20 NFFS Prov. Rules
Bud’s Buddies Big “E”
Unlimited+ Rubber, AMA Rules
Vintage FAI Gas
Five rounds, NFFS rules
AMA HHCLG – NC Pts.

Sunday Only! 8am – 3pm
Paul MacCready Human Powered World Championships AMA Catapult Launch Glider Cash prizes – see flier
NOS Gas A, B & Early 1/2A
AMA Gas 1/2A, A & B Combined
AMA HLG – NC Pts.
NEW! P-30 40th Anniversary / Orbiteers / John Oldenkamp Tribute
$200 cash purse! See special flier

Large NOS Rubber-NFFS Rules
Bob White Award for top NOS Wake
Classic Glider NFFS Rules
Lee’s BTV West, 12″CLG. See Lee
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Ike/Kiwi entry form

Cut and paste from the following section and add your name and country and AMA and/or FAI License Number
then delete the infomration about the events you do not want to enter
Send the informatiion to either
sen@faifreeflight.org
or
r_morrell@yahoo.com
DO NOT SEND MONEY, pay at the field.

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Start of IKE/Kiwi Entry Form
Name:
Country:
License Number:

Saturday FAI Events
Kiwi – New Zealand World Cup!
F1A
F1B
F1C
F1P
F1Q

Frank Zaic Awards*
For limited function F1X models
sTate if you model QUALIFIES

Grand Master Award
For best performance in F1AB or C by a sportsman over 75

STATE IF YOU QUALIFY

Sunday FAI
F1G
F1H
F1J*
F1S
(F1S – Proposed sm. elec. AMA E36 spec. 10s MR, 2 min. max. 5s FO MR)
*F1J – contingent on pre-entries (4- min)

Monday! “Kiwi” World Cup – Slope Soaring F1E
10:00am – 3:00 pm. Five rounds, 60 minutes each.

Saturday Only AMA/NFFS

Gollywock One Design 3 – 3min max
Gollywock Mass Launch
NOS Gas 1/4A
NOS Gas 1/2A
NOS Gas C.
AMA Gas
C, D, Sup. D Combined. Classes will be separated for NC pts.
The Paul MacCready Human Power World Championship for Hand Launch Glider – Cash prizes
E-36 – AMA rules
E-36 World Open Mass Launch
NEW! E-20 NFFS Prov. Rules Sat. evening
Bud’s Buddies Big “E” Unlimited+ Rubber, AMA Rules
Vintage FAI Gas
Unlimited+ Rubber, AMA Rules
AMA HHCLG – NC Pts.

Sunday AMA/NFFS
Paul MacCready Human Powered World Championships AMA Catapult Launch Glider Cash prizes
NOS Gas A
NOS Gas B
NOS Gas Early 1/2A
AMA Gas 1/2A, A & B Combined
AMA HLG – NC Pts.
NEW! P-30 40th Anniversary / Orbiteers / John Oldenkamp Tribute
Large NOS Rubber-NFFS Rules – Bob White Award for top NOS Wake
Classic Glider NFFS Rules
Lee’s BTV West

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……………………….
Roger Morrell