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Table of Contents – SEN 2035

  1. Looking for …
  2. Another kit?
  3. J O’D on D/T FO (How’s that for a string of letters)
  4. AM Cup and USA Jnr Team Update
  5. Victor Stamov Memorial and Free Flight Revival
  6. SCAT Black Cup #1


Looking for Valensa F1b plan

From: Peter Brecker

Hello Roger,
I recently received a kit of the above mentioned model, marketed by W-Hobby and distributed thru John Clapp at FAI Supply in the States back around the turn of the century.

I received it with the flying surfaces already built but what was NOT included in the box was the plan! A call to Vidas at W-Hobby brought no relief – plan and “instructions” are no longer available. I would like to have the full set of documentation for the model öas there are some idiosyncrasies peculiar to this model. I DO have most of the “instruction diagrams” but there are some parts that I can’t identify. Hard or electronic copy (pdf) would be fine

Would you please post this in the “Help Wanted” section (if there is such).

Respectfully,
Pete Brecker
<pb1946@arcor.de>

Suggestion for another Class/Camp kit
From: Rick Pangell

Regarding the kids program at Lost Hills
Lost Hills Kids Summer Camp
For any kids programs. The racers and darts are nice, but there is a very
suitable replacement from John McGrath, a HS science teacher and member of
the MMM club of Colorado. The models are designed specifically for kids
and build type programs. We used his Hawk P-18 kit developed for the AMA
Indoor NATs here in Colorado and there was nothing but success. It goes
together in a snap and the instructions are very clear. Nothing flimsy nor
cheap. We had over 2 dozen kids and some adults too! The whole session took
less than 4 hours. Plenty of time to fly.

A highly recommended kit for rookies is his Mountain Lion. Steve Riley is
planning on using them at the Springerville/Eager Az Dome contest next
April.

Give them a look: at: lasercutplanes.com

Rick Pangell
Editor of “The Max-Out” Newsletter of
The Magnificent Mountain Men FF Club of Colorado

DT Flyoffs

From: John O’Donnell

Hi Roger and readers,

Of late there has been much discussion in SEN about DT Flyoffs – precipitaed by their use at a couple of European Internationals.
The idea is not new. Over here (England) the DT Flyoff has been employed on a number of occasions, particularly at the SAM Vintage events – where it has become accepted. This is far from universal as was demonstrated a year or so ago at the British FF Nationals when its use was announced for the FAI and other events. This was not favoured by the competitors to the extent of an immediate and heated reaction – quite the biggest ‘row’ that I have seen on the contest field. Following a written Protest (complete with appropriate payment) the organisers changed their ideas and ran a normal single flight flyoff. All this can be read as part on my Nationals report in the July/August 2014 ‘Aeromodeller’- and nowhere else !!
Now however the DT Flyoff would appear to becoming a common and acceptable arrangement for when difficulties arise towards the end of contests including cases when ties need to be resolved. These problems can involve wind, visibility, local lanowners with ‘no go’ areas, risk of losing models and over-running the timetable. The DT Flyoff has become a soft option for a CD in a difficult position – particularly if future use of the venue could be jeopardised.

Regretably it is a very poor option as the concept is fundamently FLAWED – since it conflicts with model purpose and design.
DT systems are intended to terminate a flight by producing a RAPID and safe descent. Once the DT has operated the model is soon on the ground.

In contrast the usual method of judging a DT Flyoff is merely to set a target time for the DT operation and then time until the model lands. There is often a penalty for late DTs. Clearly it is advantageous for the model to descend slowly on DT – quite the opposite of normal usage.

The appearance of the ‘slow DT’ is inevitable – as are the complaints about it being ‘unsporting’. Suggestions re tail angle and the like are merely tinkering with the problem. Remember there are alternative DT systems such as parachutes and/or drag flaps..

There are alternative solutions to ties – such as height prior to DT – but this would need measuring.
Normal (nevermind ‘slow’) DT descent time can hardly be a reliable estimate of HEIGHT . Use of altimeters is sure to be suggested but suffers both from what has just been said, and also from the variation between instruments.

There are other ways to resolve ties – mostly based on chance – drawing lots, nearest landing to a ‘spot’, etc. None establish what the contest is supposed to provide – a fair test of man and machine.

Regards,
John O’Donnell

AmCup and 1st Jr Team Scores
From: Jim Parker

AmCup Update and 1st USA FF Jr Team Selection Scores

We are not quite one third thru the AmCup season. The west coast winter and spring contests are complete and the FF contests have moved east. (We do have the Tangent OR contest in August)

The complete first Jr Team results will be on the NFFs website in a week or so. In summary, the Jr Team selection program scores the best 3 contests (7 round results, ie no FO times) of the 40 AmCup contest the last one being the 2016 MaxMen Each contest is worth up to 100 points which is scored based on the the contest 7 round winning scores. One of the three contest must be on of the 14 Jr Select Contests. For more information or to register (no cost) see the complete 2016 USA FAI FF Team Selection Program at <https://freeflight.org/competition/Juniors/index.htm>. Note that scores will be retro actively scored when juniors register, dead line is September 1, 2016.

F1A
VanNest, Austin 196.8
Stalick, Alex 95.7
Yori, Joel 43.4
F1B
Malkhasyan, Sevak 300.0
Pivonka, Jace 200.0
Gerspacher, Kyle 100.0
Davis, Troy 100.0
Yori, Joel 96.1
F1P
Fedor, Cade 100.0
Malkhasyan, Sevak 97.7
Fedor, Colby 0.0

America Cup results - with individual placings

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 11
Ike 14
NAC 12
MM 15
SCA 10
SAN 5
NCA 2
Srn 4
BAl 8
Spe 0
Hcu 2
HIC 5

F1A
1 Parker, Jim 77 SWR-2 NAC-1 MM-2 SCA-5* SAN-4* BAl-5*
2 Danier, Jama 70 Ike-2 MM-1 HIC-3
3 Rosenzweig, Shlomi 66 SWR-1 SCA-3 SAN-1
4 VanNest, Brian 65 SWR-3 Ike-5* NAC-2 SCA-2 SAN-2*
4 McKeever, Mike 65 Ike-3 NAC-3* MM-3 NCA-1 BAl-1*
6 Limberger, Rene 45 SCA-1 BAl-2
7 Pecenkovic, Enes 44 SWR-5* Ike-1 NAC-4
8 Barron, Peter 40 MM-4 HIC-1
9 Bauer, Ken 27 Ike-4* MM-5 SAN-5* BAl-2
10 VanNest, Austin (jr) 25 SWR-4 BAl-4
10 Markos, Chuck 25 Hcu-1
10 Spence, Steve 25 Srn-1
13 Barron, Andrew 20 HIC-2
13 Lorbiecki, John 20 Hcu-2
13 Fedor, Mike 20 Srn-2
13 Tarcher, Ben 20 NCA-2
17 Stalick, Alex (jr) 15 SAN-3
17 Bevan, Dave 15 Srn-3
19 Jones, Kyle 13 SCA-4
20 Yori, Joel (jr) 10 HIC-4
20 Hanford, Bob 10 Srn-4
22 Brocks, Peter 9 NAC-5
23 Sifleet, Bob 5 HIC-5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 10
Ike 23
NAC 22
MM 24
SCA 11
SAN 6
NCA 3
Srn 2
BAl 7
Spe 0
Hcu 6
HIC 0
CEN 0
TUI 0
SKA 0
HC 0
USO 0

KOI 0

F1B
1 Ghio, Walt 89 SWR-1 MM-3 SAN-1 NCA-1
2 Jensen, Blake 61 SWR-5 NAC-2* MM-2 SCA-1 BAl-2*
3 Andriukov, Alex 60 Ike-4* NAC-1 MM-1 SAN-2*
3 Vaccaro, Tom 60 Ike-1 NAC-5* MM-5 SKA-2
5 Crowley, Paul 34 SWR-4 Hcu-2
6 Jones, Charles 32 Ike-5 BAl-3 Hcu-5
7 Schlosberg, Aram 30 Ike-3 SKA-4
8 Gerspacher, Kyle (jr) 26 Hcu-1
8 Myers, Dick 26 NCA-3 BAl-4
8 Malkhasyan, Sevak (jr) 26 BAl-1
11 Mathews, Tony 25 Ike-2
11 Allen, Carrol 25 SKA-1
11 Brown, Gerald 25 Srn-1
14 Emery, Jack 23 SWR-2
14 Raymond. Aimee 23 SCA-2
16 Guest, Bernard 20 NAC-3
16 Hanford, Bob 20 Srn-2
16 Davis, Mike 20 NCA-2
19 Pivonka, Jace (jr) 18 SWR-3
19 Booth, Bill 18 SCA-3
21 Morrell, Roger 17 SAN-4 BAl-5
22 Schroedter,Martin 16 SAN-1
22 Jones, Ryan 16 Hcu-3
24 Horak, Ladi 15 MM-4
24 Batiuk, George 15 NAC-4
24 Yori, Joel (jr) 15 SKA-3
27 Piserchio, Bob 13 SCA-4
28 Simon, Greg 11 Hcu-4
29 Ulm, Allan 8 SCA-5
30 Achterberg, Mike 6 SAN-5
31 Radziunas, Sarah 5 SKA-5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR -x-
Ike 4
NAC 8
MM 9
SCA -x-
SAN -x-
NCA -x-
Srn 2
BAl 1
Spe 0
Hcu -x-
HIC -x-

F1C
1 Mc Burnett, Ron 52 NAC-1 BAl-1
2 Stiles, Charles 39 Ike-4* NAC-4 MM-1
3 Ellington, Jeff 37 Ike-3 NAC-5* MM-2
3 Chesson, Don 37 Ike-2 MM-3
5 Secor, Randy 25 Ike-1
5 Parker, Faust 25 Srn-1
7 Morris, Gil 22 NAC-2
8 Shepard, Jessie 20 Srn-2
9 Malkhasyan, Taron 17 NAC-3
10 Roberts, Mike 12 MM-4
11 Simpson, Roger 7 MM-5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR -x-
Ike -x-
NAC -x-
MM 2
SCA 1
SAN -x-
NCA -x-
Srn 1
BAl -x-
Spe 0
Hcu -x-
HIC 0
CEN 0
TUI 0
SKA -x-
HC 0
USO 0

F1P
1 Schneider, Glen 45 MM-2 SCA-1
2 Malkhasyan, Sevak(jr) 25 MM-1
2 Fedor, Cade (jr) 25 Srn-1

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 10
Ike 15
NAC -x-
MM 9
SCA 3
SAN 1
NCA 1
Srn -x-
BAl 4
Spe 0
Hcu 2
HIC 0
CEN 0
TUI 0
SKA 4
HC 0

F1G
1 O'Dell, Tiffaney 73 SWR-3 Ike-1 MM-2* BAl-1
2 Jensen, Blake 52 Ike-2 MM-1
3 Richardson, Mike 48 SWR-5 SCA-1 BAl-3
4 Masterman, Paul 45 SCA-2 SAN-1
5 Brocks, Peter 30 SWR-4 MM-3
6 Petersen, Alan 28 SWR-1
7 Jones, Geralyn 27 MM-5 BAl-2
8 Pykelny, Mike 25 SCA-3 BAl-4
8 Vaccaro, Tom 25 HIC-1
8 Gerspacher, Kyle (jr) 25 Hcu-1
8 Davis, Mike 25 NCA-1
12 Ghio, Walt 23 SWR-2
13 Horak, Ladi 20 Ike-3
13 Rousseau, Don 20 HIC-2
13 Markos, Chuck 20 Hcu-2
16 Mathews, Tony 15 Ike-4
16 Buss, Bill 15 HIC-3
18 Guest, Bernard 12 MM-4
19 Clapp, John 10 Ike-5
19 Avla, Yuda, 10 HIC-4

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 6
Ike 4
NAC -x-
MM 4
SCA 6
SAN -x-
NCA 2
Srn 2
BAl 3
Spe 0
Hcu -x-
HIC 0
CEN 0
TUI 0
SKA 1
HC 0

F1H
1 VanNest, Brian 72 SWR-2 Ike-1 MM-1* SCA-1
2 Parker, Jim 66 SWR-1 Ike-2 MM-2 SCA-4* BAl-3*
3 McKeever, Mike 65 Ike-3* MM-3 SCA-5* NCA-1 BAl-1
4 Jensen, Blake 47 SWR-4 MM-4* SCA-3 BAl-2
5 Rozenzeig, Shlomi 37 SWR-3 SCA-2
6 Sifleet, Bob 25 SKA-1
6 Bell, Tommy 25 Srn-1
8 Brown, Gerald 20 Srn-2
8 Tarcher,Ben 20 NCA-2
10 Bauer, Ken 10 Ike-4
11 Allnut, Peter 6 SWR-5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR -x-
Ike -x-
NAC -x-
MM 2
SCA 1
SAN 3
NCA -x-
Srn 3
BAl -x-
Spe 0
Hcu 1
HIC 0
CEN 0
TUI 0
SKA 1

F1J
1 Scheinder, Glenn 45 MM-2 SCA-1
2 Secor, Randy 25 MM-1
2 Kerger, Terry 25 SAN-1
2 Pailet, Jean 25 SKA-1
2 Lorbiecki, John E 25 Hcu-1
2 Parker, Faust 25 Srn-1
7 Scully, Bob 20 SAN-2
7 Parker, Jim 20 Srn-2
9 Bartick, Don 15 SAN-3
9 Brown, Gerald 15 Srn-3

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 3
Ike 5
NAC -x-
MM 4
SCA 2
SAN -x-
NCA -x-
Srn 1
BAl 1
Spe 0
Hcu -x-
HIC 0

F1Q
1 Ivers, Dick J 70 Ike-1 MM-2 SKA-1
2 Pykelny, Mike 65 SWR-2 Ike-5* SCA-2 BAl-1
3 Gewain, Matt 60 SWR-1 Ike-4 MM-4* SCA-1
3 Murphy, Jack 60 SWR-3 Ike-2 MM-1
5 Lacey, David 35 Ike-3 SKA-2
6 Parker, Julie 25 Srn-1
7 Schlosberg, Aram 15 MM-3
7 Yori, Joel (jr) 15 SKA-3
9 Coffin, Jim 10 SKA-4
10 Hooke, Drake 5 SKA-5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR -x-
Ike 4
Cal 3
MM -x-
SCA -x-
SAN -x-
NCA -x-
Srn -x-
BAl -x-
Spe 0
Hcu -x-
HIC 0

F1E
1 Brocks, Peter 50 Ike-1 Cal-1
2 Terzian, Fred 20 Cal-2
2 Furutani, Brian 20 Ike-2
4 Jones, Geralyn 15 Cal-3
4 Terzian, Fred 15 Ike-3
6 Davis, Troy (jr) 10 Ike-4

Thermals, JIM


Victor Stamov Memorial and Free Flight Revival

From: Leslie Farkas

With the loss of our dear friend VICTOR STAMOV in 2013 August, Ansgar Nuttgens initiated a memorial to recognize Victor’s dedication to our sport, his friendship with modellers around the World and his outstanding career.
The objective of VSM is to identify the best profiles and airplanes with the slowest sinking rate without thermals. This can be only achieved before sunrise. The World Championships in Mongolia will be a good opportunity for many people. Please see:http://vsmsunrise.org/blog/invitation-to-vsm-sunrise-flying-in-mongolia-during-world-champs/
I would like to emphasize another important point of this postal contest. The registration fee of two euro will not be kept by the organizer but part of it will be used to maintain the web-site and the rest will be used to buy a headstone for our lost friend in Ukraine. I hope that many of us will participate to show and pay our respect to Victor.

As previously reported, Ansgar Nuttgens have also started his freeflight revival four years ago. The purpose of his Euro Challenge F1H was to increase the interest for this class by encouraging participation, especially by young people in international contests around Europe. The first year in 2011 fourteen contests were held in ten countries and ten of those were World Cups . Now this project can be declared a success as the number of young and old competitors have grown substantially. Perhaps we should extend this challenge World wide?
More information about HEC can be seen at: http://www.creasus.de/ikarus/HEC.html and click on Mongolia 2015 to read about the Mongol federation’s development of their youth program.

SCAT Black Cup Report

From: Jim Parker

SCAT Black Cup June 27, 2015 Report
Free Flight FAI Fun Fly

We had only 3 entries– an unusually small Saturday turn out at Perris.

1st, Jim Parker
2nd Shlomi Rosenzweig
3rd Roger Morrell

I started at 7:00 using my trim flighst on a M&K LDA long with a new stab servo and finished with 7, 3 minute maxes at 8:35am. Shlomi Rosenzweig was also trimming and dropped two flighst by 3 seconds each. Roger Morrell made a couple of trim flights as well. We did see Bill Booth, Jack Emery and Bob Picherchio doing some trimming as well. The temperature did not climb as high as predicted so Shlomi and I continued our World Champs training until 1:00.

Our next FAI FF Fun fly is Saturday, July 11, 2014. Come on out.

Thermals, JIM

……………………….
Roger Morrell