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- Eugene Verbitsky
- Remembering Verbitsky
- Verbitskiy Evgeny died today
- Old Friend
- Both sides are right
- Should have Clipped the wings
- performance question
- The Hammer and the Feather
- Patterson Results
- Calm at Old Blighty
- F1B models and parts for sale
Eugene Verbitsky
From: gilbert morris
The passing of Eugene Verbitsky marks the end of an era of extraordinary model airplane advancement. During the golden years of his dominance he chased others and they chased him to a technical crescendo which has left us overwhelmed. This is the way FAI is suppose to work. Fortunately, we have the organization and leadership to restore the progress.
Remembering Verbitsky
From: Fred Terzian
Roger,
This is truly a sad day for the free flight aeromodelling community. Evgeny (Eugene) was a class act and one of the best international representatives for our sport. He was gracious when I first met him (around 1980-1981) at the U.S. Free Flight Champs at Taft and throughout the years following up until the last time I saw him at Lost Hills around 2015 or 2016. A true gentleman, and I am glad to have known him as one of my best F1C friends.
A little history when I first met him:
I had read about him since the early Seventies but by chance finally met him at Taft, a year or two after we hosted the ’79 World Championships there. The Soviet Union had boycotted this event in response to the U.S. boycotting the Olympics held in the Soviet Union several years before.
At that time, Eugene became the aeromodelling representative to Cuba for their FAI program, helping them learn to design and fly competitive models in all categories flown internationally.
He was not allowed to travel from Cuba to the United States because of our trade embargo, so he could not secure a visa. Crafty Canadian F1A flyer Peter Allnutt came up with a plan that allowed Eugene to visit Canada and could be flown there by way of a Canadian airline, I believe Peter was still employed in the airline industry at that time and was able to accomplish this.
Peter then brought Eugene to the U.S. by way of automobile transportation down the West Coast to Taft. I do not recall if Eugene spoke English at that time but I do know that he picked up Spanish in Cuba!
At Taft, I noted that he was wearing a leather belt which on the back was inscribed the words “Cuba Libre”. I went over to him and introduced myself speaking Spanish (I was born in El Salvador and became bilingual at an early age). I took some photographs of him starting his BE-35 aluminum skinned F1C power ship with his centrifugal hand cranked starter. That photograph was published in black and white in the NFFS “Free Flight” digest of that period, and the color rendition was blown up to Kodak poster size and was displayed in the NFFS Hospitality Suite at several World Champs venues here in the U.S. At that time I was the NFFS Plans and Publications Chairman.
Over the years, I gave Eugene color photographs that I had taken of him in competition here in California and at the ’91 World Champs held in Zrenjanin, Yugoslavia.
I have attached a copy of that poster photograph in this message for all to share.
Please extend my deepest sympathy to his extended family and Ukrainian sportsmen. I will miss him deeply,
Fred Terzian
Oakland Cloud Dusters President
Member of SCAT
Verbitskiy Evgeny died today
From: Hobby Club
Very sad news..!
Alberto
Old Friend
From: Lee Hines
Evgeny & I had an ongoing joke between us where he called me ‘The Old Man’, when he learned I was born June 5 while he was born June 16. He conveniently omitted the fact that he was born two years before me!
He was a true friend and I miss him.
Ciao,
Leeper
Both sides are right
From Stuart Darmon
Roger,
oops- another case of “divided by a common language”? The point still stands, though. There will never be consensus on the issue of reduced performance FAI flying because both sides are right. Modern models are awesome and to ban them seems like a victory for mediocrity over excellence. But not to ban them (or at least restrict them) is to make the supposed international sport impractical in all but a small and ever shrinking handful of locations. I’m becoming increasingly convinced that a single set of rules;-one size fits all- is no longer fit for purpose. As usual I agree with Chris Edge (apart from the Coco pops, what about the porridge miners?). Could such a set of specs somehow co- exist with current ones to be used on ‘category 2’ sites not currently suited to full-on performance flying, in the manner of low-cieling indoor venues? Shouldn’t affect World cup status as such models would be flown like against like, and meet FAI spec (I.e., unlike previous restricted tech. proposals, wouldn’t get different rubber allowance or whatever). Perhaps we can have our (oat) cake and eat it?
Cheers, Stuart
Should have Clipped the wings
From: Steve Helmick
As previously posted, I proposed wingspan limits for AB&C back in the 1980’s. I still think it’s the way we should have gone, but with the cost, investment in and durability/lifespan of Buy Tech models, it’s way too late now. Steve (O’Bat) Helmick
performance question
From: David Ackery
In my view there is not one question, but two,
I am happy with flying the first 5 or 7 rounds. These flights are normally to a 3 minutes max, and through the day when there is up and down air, so drops are always a risk.
However it is when we get to the flyoff it can sometimes become difficult to manage . Often the CD is driven to get the contest over that day, because the next day is Monday and people have to get home and get back to work. A few people get to fly at Lost Hills, but most do not and have to use a field that is more average, it is smaller and has physical limits. We have seen contest organizers resort to DT flyoffs to find a result while there are still people left on the field. This may be the least worst option but I think we agree that is not satisfactory. The next option is to use altimeters to time the flyoff flights, but that just encourages flying OOS (out of sight) and off the field. The stuff of nightmares for any CD trying hard to work within land use limitations from surrounding farmers, or without sending models into the woods.
I believe that we deserve contests that are resolved by normal flying, not by early DT or who is highest after a few minutes.
So we need the CD, to have the option, to deploy in the flyoff a reduced performance requirement, (just like the CD has the option now to use extended maxes, in some cases).
With free flight there can never be any guarantees, but this would help 1) keep flights on the field, and 2) resolve the contest by actual flying.
regards
David Ackery
The Hammer and the Feather
By Aram Schlosberg
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It’s so nice to have annual rule discussions after missing CIAM’s Nov 15th submittal dead line each year. Thank you Bernard Guest.
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Yes, we have over-performance issues, but only in flyoffs!
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First, the 6+ minute flights will inevitably land way off the field and sometimes beyond major roads with any breeze. Second, late evening flyoffs become hazardous moon light retrievals. Third, flyoffs can be very large, draining the timer pool and with the inherent difficulty of timing so many models simultaneously in the air. (I’ve heard rumors of flight times that were composites of two flights.) Fourth, Sunday mid-day flyoffs.
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The obvious hammer “solutions” are to reduce performance in a variety of means – span limits, auto surface limits, 20 gram motors etc. Not mentioned are unpleasantries like adding weights or increasing a model’s cross section. A no-second-attempt was once dropped after a year.
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We should accept free flight models’ performance as-is. I’ve flown all free flight events (A, B, C and Q) because models go up like javelins into the sky and descend like feathers. (A rather poetic point. Current Q’s are more sedate.)
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We should also accept truncated-flyoffs as a realistic way to conclude contests. Two minute flyoffs are completely fair and I’ve watched and participated in a few. The models that climb higher or those launched into better air end up at the top of the heap. Whether truncated-flyoffs are altimeter flyoffs or DT flyoffs is something we should work out over time.
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If the number in the first flyoff is small, they all fly a truncated-flyoff and we are done.
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Large truncated-flyoffs might require flying in shifts. Flyers are divided randomly into two groups (early and late shifts). The top 50% in each shift proceed to the next flyoff phase. (Taking the top 50% of each shift neutralize the specific weather conditions in each shift.) The top 50% of each shift flyoff against each other for podium positions. And when complete ranking is required, the bottom 50% of each shift flyoff against each other.
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(So we have ended up with the oddities like “truncated-flyoffs” and “truncated-shift-flyoffs”.) ///
Patterson Results
PATTERSON Nov 1617TH 2019 BRIAN VANNEST CD
F1A Rnd1 Rnd2 Rnd3 Rnd4 Rnd5 Rnd6 Rnd7 F01 F02 total
1 Jim Parker 240 180 180 143 180 180 180 1283
2 Brian VanNest 240 180 180 129 179 180 180 1268
3 Peter Allnut 240 180 180 123 180 180 180 1263
4 Mike McKeever 27 180 180 180 180 180 180 1107
F1B Rnd1 Rnd2 Rnd3 Rnd4 Rnd5 Rnd6 Rnd7 FO 1 FO2 total
1 Walt Ghio 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 360 476 2156
2 Jerry Fitch 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 360 408 2088
3 Blake Jensen 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 360 389 2069
4 Larry Norvell 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 360 365 2045
5 Michael Davis 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 360 324 2004
6 Tiffany Odell 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 360 277 1957
7 Mike Richardson 240 180 180 112 180 180 180 1252
F1C Rnd 1 Rnd 2 Rnd 3 Rnd4 Rnd 5 Rnd6 Rnd 7
1 Daryl Perkins 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 1320
2 Ed Carroll 240 180 180 180 126 180 180 1266
3 Terry Kerger 240 180 180 180 113 180 180 1253
4 Guy Menano 240Dnf Dnf Dnf Dnf Dnf Dnf 240
F1Q Rnd 1 Rnd 2 Rnd 3 Rnd 4 Rnd 5 Rnd 6 Rnd 7
1 Ben Tarcher 220 180 180 180 180 180 180 1300
F1H Rnd 1 Rnd 2 Rnd 3 Rnd 4 Rnd 5 FO 1 FO 2 FO 3
1 Jim Parker 120 120 120 120 120 180 239 1019
2 Brian VanNest 120 120 120 120 120 180 97 877
3 Blake Jensen 120 120 114 120 120 594
F1G Rnd 1 Rnd 2 Rnd 3 Rnd 4 Rnd 5 FO1 FO2 FO3
1 Mike Richardson 120 120 120 120 120 180 780
2 Kurt Van Nest 120 120 120 120 120 0 600
3 Mike Davis 120 120 120 119 120 599
4 Tiffany Odell 120 118 120 120 120 598
5 Walt Ghio 120 120 118 120 120 598
F1S Rnd 1 Rnd 2 Rnd 3 Rnd 4 Rnd 5 FO1 FO2
1 Larry Norvall 120 120 120 120 120 600
F1J
1 Terry Kerger 120 120 120 120 120 360 960
2 Daryl Perkins 120 120 120 120 120 52 652
3 Guy Menano 120 120 120 120 81 561
Calm at Old Blighty
From: john carter
Guys,
just read comments re UK flying weather, yep its a island but we do get calm days I been out flying 4 days in last 12 and could have had 3 more but was otherwise engaged.
So its not that bad
F1B models and parts for sale:
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2 models Stefanchuck 1720 mm with AA VP DPR with mechanical timers models perfectly trimmed and ready to fly
in great condition with no damage
equipment:
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Blazevitch 1:4 winder with torque-meter and electronic counter
Stefanchuk winding stand with Kevlar ropes
3* Stefanchuk half tube for outside winding
Stefanchuk rubber “Bobins”
Stefanchuk rubber ‘Piserchio hooks” for outside winding
Extra wing pins
Stefanchuck prop angle correction device
Set of new Stefanchuk balsa-fiberglass props with easy clips fittings
Fiberglass model box for 4 models
Will make a nice discount for buying the entire/most of the equipment – (can be sent in the model box)
Excelent opportunity for a sportsman to get into the class of F1B with nice competitive models with all the equipment needed.
Please contact me via e-mail or Facebook for additional info and prices
Ittai Shichman
Israel
ittaish@gmail.com