National Free Flight Society

SEN 1979

Table of Contents – SEN 1979

  1. Ike Results
  2. Altimeter Timer
  3. Dino 1
  4. Kanga-Dino 2

Ike Winter Classic Non-FAI event scores

2015 Isaacson Winter Classic

Saturday MacCready HLG Total	Place
Tim Batiuk 112	39	44	110	79	71	301	1
Don DeLoach 106	70	105	54	57	85	296	2
Jace Pivonka 59	82	56	67	77	53	226	3
Bill Koran 48	71	65 184	4

Saturday AMA CLG
Tim Batiuk 103	48	83	120 306	1
Bill Koran 4	100	120	12	62	35	282	2
Andy Bandy 68	55	75	74	62	8	217	3
Fred Terzian 44	44	47 135	4

Sunday MacCready CLG
Bill Koran 88	50	59	82	80	120	290	1
Jace Pivonka 57	57	72	83	100	100	283	2
Ralph Ray 47	54	38	120	83	66	269	3
Lee Hines 63	108	52	74	65	87	269	3
Malcom Campbell 56	71	64	64	38	43	199	5
Derek McGuckin 46	45	42	39	94	41	185	6
Kathy Burford 40	55	59	59 173	7
Paul Crowley 60	43	67	6	32	38	170	8
Fred Terzian 48	44	56	50	22	55	161	9
Jack Murphy 0	29	37	54 120	10
Jayden Sage (jr) 15	9	25	8	24	16	65	11	1st Jr
Ben Tarcher 23 23	12
Stan Buddenbohm 13

Sunday AMA HLG
Tim Batiuk 71	80	120	120	91	59	331	1
Ken Bauer 120	70	87	120	75	33	327	2
Jace Pivonka 48	72	120	66	48	120	312	3
Don DeLoach 120	74	88	53	54	95	303	4
Bill Koran 40	61	57	80	120	40	261	5
Gene Ulm 83	68	53	53	47	30	204	6
Fred Terzian 66	42	41	80	34	41	188	7
Andy Bandy 34	42	27	42	40	33	124	8
Stan Buddenbohm 120 120	9
Ben Tarcher 0 0	10

Classic Glider
Enes Pecenkovic 120	122	132 374	1
Jasminka Pecenkovic	120	51	195 366	2
Tim Batiuk 117	104	138 359	3

E-36
Stan Buddenbohm 120	120	120	120	120	120	720	1
Don Kaiser 120	120	120	120	119 599	2
Ralph Ray 120	120	120	120	116 596	3
Jack Murphy 120	120	120	120	95 575	4
Clint Brooks 120	120	120	120 480	5
Hal Cover 120	120	120	120	O/R 480	5
Derek McGuckin 120	120	120	92 452	6
Rich Ivers Jr 120	120	120	63 423	7
Lee Hines 120	120	108 348	8
Don DeLoach 120	120	38 278	9
Ben Tarcher 80	120	75 275	10
Dick Ivers Sr 0 0	11
Matt Gewain 0 0	12

Second E-36 World Open
(maximum score: 200.00%)
1 Ralph Ray 182.78%
2 Don Kaiser 155.68
3 Jack Murphy 144.15
4 Clint Brooks 137.99
5 Lee Hines 135.90
6 Hal Cover 130.16
7 Stan Buddenbohm 103.17
8 Derek McGuckin 95.06
9 Dick Ivers, Jr. 58.75
10 Ben Tarcher 54.06

E-20
Jack Murphy 71 71	1

P-30
Don Bartick (HB) 120	120	120	150 510	1
Paul Masterman 120	120	120	88 448	2
Don Bartick 120	120	120	68 428	3
Clink Brooks 120	120	116 356	4
Ates Gurcan 119	115	120 354	5
Mark Chomyn (HB) 97	95	120 312	6
Bill Koran 120 120	7
Don DeLoach 115 115	8
Jace Pivonka 0 0	9
Nejo Necar 0 0	10
Bill Gannon 0 0	11

Large Nos Rubber/Wake
John Pratt (Wake) 120	180	240	240	240 1020	1
Hal Cover (Wake) 120	180	240	240	237 1017	2
Ates Gurcan (Wake)	120	180	0 300	3
Mark Chomyn 95 95	4

Gollywock
Paul Masterman 142	180	180 502	1
Mike Mayea 180	164	150 494	2
Don DeLoach 180	180 360	3
Mark Chomyn 115	164	150 212	4
John Pratt 0 0	5
Hal Cover 0 0	6

Gollywock Mass Launch
Hal Cover Winner!

Vintage FAI Gas
Glen Schneider 180	180	180 540	1

1/2A Nos Gas
Don Bartick 180	180	180	100 640	1
Mike Mayea 0 0	2

A Nos Gas
Randy Secor 180	180	180	167 707	1
Don McNamee 123	132	180 435	2

B Nos Gas
Glen Schneider 180	180	180	106 646	1
Don Kaiser 0 0	2

C Nos Gas
Don McNamee 180	180	180	173 713	1
Jeff Carman 180	180	180	138 678	2

1/2A AMA Gas
Mike Mayea 144	180	148 472	1
Ken Kaiser 0 0	2

A-B AMA Gas
Terry Ellington 180	180	180	180	124 844	1
Jeff Carman (B) 127	180	180 487	2
Jeff Ellington 180 180	3
Jeff Carman (A) 180 180	3

C-D-SD AMA Gas
Ken Kaiser (SD) 180	180	180	180	180	180	1080	1
Jeff Carman 180	180	180	180	180	167	1067	2
Terry Ellington 180	180 360	3


Re:Altimeter timer

From: Carrol Allen

With the talk of using altimeter data as a stop watch an interesting observation.
I use Andriukov simplicity timers that store the flight data.
During the Max Men competion I dropped the 3rd round by 8 secs. Looking at the flight data I made a max of 180 secs. The difference is that the timer only stores an altitude every 10 secs late in the flight, so the 8 sec drop wasn’t recorded.
Altimeters would have to be upgraded to store every sec and I don’t know if they have the storage capacity for a 10 min flight.

Editor’s comment

Carroll and Craig (who made a comment a couple of issues back)

I think that Allard’s suggestion on FB that some form of managed trial be done to make sure that all issues are addressed before making a rules proposal is very important for thi success of such an idea.
Some investment would be required to make a suitable device and it would help the developer if the requirements did not chnage too much.
That would also serve to keep the costs down.

Dino Corner1
From: michael achterberg

To fellow Dino’s.
Well, it seems like nobody cares enough to write in to say No to 25gr. Everyone says they don’t want it, but nobody takes the time to write and voice there opinion. After talking to everyone during the Feb contests was surprized to hear no one wanted the change except one. Problem is that the gap between the best and the rest is that the gap will widen. If you think its hard to beat Alex wait till u try with 25.
Hears an idea. Lets make a handicap system. Alex gets 25gr and the rest get 30gr. An I need 35gr.. Perfect.. Even throwing it out my ear I can do well with 35gr.. And coupe with there multi flyoffs is
Screaming for 5gr… Your welcome Tony?..

Dino Corner 2

As we mentioned in a previous SEN there were no “offficial” meeting around the rules at the fab Feb events but there were a few leess formal gatherings, as mentioned by Dino leader Mike

Not sure how a Kangaroo is related to Dino but here is some further comments from another campfire session, (has to be a campfire as there are no pubs or bars in Lost Hills)

Results of rules Meeting Lost Hills.
These are my impressions of the meeting.
With twenty two countries in attendance at Lost Hills for the Fab Feb Meetings, i.e., Kiwi Cup, North America Cup and the Max men, it was certainly an excellent chance to get an overall view from the flyers of the world of what changes we, the flyers wanted.

After a lot of discussion it became very clear that those in attendance did not want any changes made to the model specifications on how we fly them at present.

One item that the group would like to see changed was wind speed.
1. That the maximum wind speed at present is 9 meters per second. If this was reduced to 5 or 6 meters per second, it would make smaller fields friendlier (flight distances would be reduced by a third).
2. There was also a lot of discussion on some form of electronic timing. To me this was over my head but seemed like a device that is attached to the model, starts on launch and records the time when the model lands.
No doubt someone in the electronic field could invent this device which would be great for the long fly offs where visibility can be a problem.

Overall it was an interesting evening without anyone getting out of control.

Roy Summersby

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Roger Morrell