SEN 2664
- Chris not the only one over the edge on this one -1
- Chris not the only one over the edge on this one -2
- Second to last 2019 AmCup Scores
Chris not the only one over the Edge on this one – 1
From: Leo Reynders
Dear SEN readers,
About the large fly-offs and the 20 sec rule, I strongly support dropping the 20 sec rule but in case this doesn’t get enough support, I propose the following: “Everyone who wants to make use of the 20 sec rule has to drop 1 second of the second attempt”, so will drop out of the flyoff with a minimum loss of the fun of the contest.
Your opinion?
Kind regards
Leo Reynders
Chris not the only one over the Edge on this one -2
From: Peter Brown
Hi Roger
I’m with Chris, get rid of the attempt rule.
I have never understood why we should get 2 goes.
Thanks
Peter Brown
UK F1B flyer
Second to last 2019 AmCup Scores
From : Jim Parker
Only the Az Champs (Eloy, AZ, Dec. 7-8, 2019) is left to be competed. There is no King Orange this year on the AmCup schedule, the club moved it earlier in the year and choose not to be part of the AmCup schedule of contests.
Assuming no bonus points in these events at Az Champs, first place could change in F1A, C, P, and Q . We have an interesting situation in F1Q. Currently Ben Tarcher is in the lead via 1st level tie breaker. If second place Bob Sifleet wins at AZ Champs (assuming no bonus points) he would win the F1Q AmCup via a 6th level tie breaker! If there was a bonus point at the Az Champs, with a win Bob Sifleet would win the AmCup with a higher 4 contest point total.
If F1S had 6 flyers (ie 1 bonus point) that first place could change too. All the other first places look to be locked up. Stay tuned!
Send any correction to
Thermals, Jim Parker
America Cup results – with individual placings
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 12 1
Ike 12 2
NAC 14 3
MM 19 4
SCA 10 5
SAN 6 6
NCA 3 7
Srn -x- 8
Dua 1 9
Spe -x- 10
Sky 5 17
Cas 3 11
Hcu -X- 12
Hat 2 13
CEN -x- 14
COL 1 15
Hur 6 18
Can 5 19
FFF 0 20
Lac 5 17
NAT 8 21
NWF 6 22
NW 7 23
I-C -x- 16
Bro 1 24
Rck 1 25
Har 3 27
USF -x- 26
TCC 2 28
Ser 17 30
Kot 12 29
SWC -x- 31
Sim -x- 32
Pat 4 33
AZC 0 34
F1A
1 Parker, Jim 105 SWR-1 Ike-2* NAC-2* SCA-4* SAN-4* Dua-1 NWF-2 Ser-1 Kot-4* Pat-1*
2 McKeever, Mike 96 NAC-3 SCA-3* NCA-1 Cas-1 NWF-3* NW -1 Pat-4*
3 Danier, Jama 85 Ike-5* NAC-1 MM-1 Hur-2* Can-1
4 Bauer, Ken 84 SAN-3* NCA-2 NWF-5* NW -3 Ser-3 Kot-1
5 VanNest, Brian 81 SCA-5* NCA-3 Cas-2 NWF-1 NW -4* Ser-5* Pat-2
6 Rosenzweig, Shlomi 78 SWR-3 Ike-4* MM-2 SCA-2 NWF-4 NW -5* Ser-4*
7 Pecenkovic, Jasminka 68 Ike-3 Hur-3 Can-4 Kot-2
8 Barron, Andrew 64 Ike-1 Sky-3 Hat-2 Lac-3* Har-3*
9 Barron, Peter 58 Sky-2* Hat-1 Lac-1 Kot-5
10 Tzvetkov, Tzvetan 57 Sky-1 Lac-2 NAT-4 Har-2*
11 Goldstein, Noa (jr) 50 SWR-4 MM-4 SAN-2
11 McQuade, Pete 50 COL-1 Rck-1
13 Pecenkovic, Enes 44 NAC-4* Hur-1 Can-5* Kot-3
14 Brun, Pierre 37 NAC-5 SAN-5 NW -2
15 Allnutt, Peter 36 Hur-5 Can-3 Pat-3
16 Goldstein, Guy 35 SWR-5 SAN-1
17 Farmer, Jim 34 SWR-2 MM-5
18 Ulm, Gene 32 Sky-5 Lac-5 NAT-2
19 Farkas, Leslie 31 MM-3 Hur-4
20 Jones, Kyle 28 SCA-1
21 Stalick, Roman (jr) 27 NAT-1
22 Pukakka, Risto 25 Ser-2
22 Fradkin. Igor 25 Har-1
22 Fedor, Mike 25 TCC-1
22 Jones, Tom 25 Bro-1
26 Ulm, Adelaide (jr) 20 Sky-4 Lac-4
26 Nikolajeras, Vidas 20 Can-2
26 Shepard, Jessie 20 TCC-2
29 Markos, Chuck 17 NAT-3
30 Brocks, Peter 15 Cas-3
31 Langelius, Jan 7 NAT-5
32 Shepard, Jessie 0
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 8 1
Ike 15 2
NAC 14 3
MM 19 4
SCA 11 5
SAN 4 6
NCA -x- 7
Srn -x- 8
Dua 6 9
Spe -x- 10
Sky 4 17
Cas 1 11
Hcu -X- 12
Hat 4 13
CEN 3 14
COL 2 15
Hur 8 18
Can 8 19
FFF 0 20
Lac 3 17
NAT 9 21
NWF 6 22
NW 5 23
I-C 2 16
Bro 2 24
Rck -x- 25
Har 3 27
USF 0 26
TCC -x- 28
Ser 15 30
Kot 10 29
SWC -x- 31
Sim -x- 32
Pat 7 33
AZC 0 34
F1B
1 Andriukov, Alex 107 NAC-1 Sky-1 Hur-1 Ser-2 Kot-3*
2 Jones, Charles 105 SWR-1 Hur-2* Can-1 NAT-5* NWF-1 NW -1
3 Fitch, Jerry 88 SWR-2 SAN-1 Hur-4* Can-3* NWF-4* NW -2 Pat-2
4 Simon, Greg 84 Hur-5 NAT-1 I-C-1 Bro-1
5 Ghio, Walt 83 SWR-3 Ike-3* NAC-2 SCA-2* Dua-4* NWF-5* NW -3 Ser-3* Kot-2* Pat-1
6 Jensen, Blake 82 Ike-5* NAC-3 Dua-2 CEN-2* COL-1 NWF-3 Kot-4* Pat-3*
7 Schlosberg, Aram 79 Sky-2* Hat-2 Can-4 Lac-2* NAT-2 Har-1
8 Richardson, Mike 67 SWR-4 MM-4 Cas-1 CEN-3
9 Felix, Ron 60 NAC-5 Sky-3* Hat-1 Lac-1 Har-2*
9 Norvall, Larry 60 SAN-2 NW -4 Ser-1 Pat-4*
11 Horak, Ladi 59 MM-3 Hur-3 Can-5 Ser-4
12 Gannon, Bill 57 MM-1 Dua-5 NWF-2 NW -5*
13 Booth, Bill 54 Ike-2* NAC-4* SCA-5* Dua-1 Kot-1
14 Obligenarz, Tomer 45 SWR-5 MM-2 SCA-4
14 Pivonka, Jace 45 CEN-1 COL-2
16 Sifleet, Bob 40 I-C-2 Bro-2
17 Morrell, Roger 34 SCA-3 SAN-4* Dua-3 Kot-5*
18 Mathews, Tony 32 MM-5 Can-2
19 Guest, Bernard 30 Ike-1
19 Davis, Mike 30 Ike-4 SAN-3 Pat-5*
19 Clapp, John 30 Sky-4 Hat-3
19 Allen, Carrol 30 Hat-4* Lac-3 Har-3
23 Malkhasyan, Sevak 28 SCA-1
24 Pacelli, Brian 17 NAT-3
25 Simon, Evan 12 NAT-4
26 Crowley, Paul 10 Ser-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 1 1
Ike 9 2
NAC 6 3
MM 10 4
SCA 4 5
SAN -x- 6
NCA -x- 7
Srn 1 8
Dua -x- 9
Spe 1 10
Sky -x- 17
Cas -x- 11
Hcu -X- 12
Hat -x- 13
CEN -x- 14
COL -x- 15
Hur 1 18
Can 1 19
FFF 0 20
Lac -x- 17
NAT 4 21
NWF 1 22
NW -x- 23
I-C -x- 16
Bro -x- 24
Rck -x- 25
Har -x- 27
USF 0 26
TCC -x- 28
Ser 8 30
Kot -x- 29
SWC -x- 31
Sim -x- 32
Pat 4 33
AZC 0 34
F1C
1 Parker, Faust 100 SWR-1 Ike-4* NAC-4* MM-2* Srn-1 Spe-1 NAT-1 Ser-3*
2 Shvedenkov, Yury 98 NAC-2 MM-5* Hur-1 Can-1 Ser-1
3 Menanno, Guy 54 Ike-3* NAC-1 MM-1 SCA-4*
4 Perkins, Daryll 45 Ike-2 NAC-3* SCA-2* Pat-1
5 Chesson, Don 40 Ike-1 NAT-3 Ser-4*
6 Malkhasyan, Taron 38 Ike-5* MM-4 SCA-1
6 Carroll, Ed 38 MM-3 Pat-2
8 Kerger, Terry 30 SCA-3 Pat-3
9 Roberts, Mike 25 NWF-1 Ser-5*
10 Mc Burnett, Ron 22 Ser-2
11 Mathis, Dick 20 NAT-2
11 Menanno, Neil 20 NAT-4 Pat-4
13 Ellington, Jeff 6 NAC-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 1 1
Ike -x- 2
NAC -x- 3
MM 2 4
SCA -x- 5
SAN 1 6
NCA -x- 7
Srn -x- 8
Dua -x- 9
Spe -x- 10
Sky 1 17
Cas -x- 11
Hcu -X- 12
Hat 1 13
CEN 1 14
COL 1 15
Hur -x- 18
Can -x- 19
FFF 0 20
Lac -x- 17
NAT 3 21
NWF -x- 22
NW -x- 23
I-C -x- 16
Bro -x- 24
Rck -x- 25
Har -x- 27
USF 0 26
TCC -x- 28
Ser 2 30
Kot 1 29
SWC -x- 31
Sim -x- 32
Pat -x- 33
AZC 0 34
F1P
1 Hayden Ashworth (jr) 95 CEN-1 COL-1 NAT-2 Kot-1
2 Rounsaville, Dave 75 MM-1 Sky-1 Hat-1
3 Fedor, Mike 50 SWR-1 NAT-1
4 Secor. Randy 45 MM-2 Ser-1
5 Stalick, Roman (jr) 40 SAN-1 NAT-3
6 Kelly, Jim 20 Ser-2
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 9 1
Ike 6 2
NAC -x- 3
MM 9 4
SCA 2 5
SAN -x- 6
NCA -x- 7
Srn -x- 8
Dua 3 9
Spe -x- 10
Sky 0 17
Cas 2 11
Hcu -X- 12
Hat 1 13
CEN 2 14
COL 3 15
Hur 1 18
Can -x- 19
FFF 0 20
Lac 3 17
NAT 10 21
NWF 2 22
NW 2 23
I-C 1 16
Bro 1 24
Rck -x- 25
Har 1 27
USF 0 26
TCC -x- 28
Ser 9 30
Kot 4 29
SWC 3 31
Sim -x- 32
Pat 5 33
AZC 0 34
F1G
1 O’Dell, Tiffaney 103 SWR-4* Ike-1 MM-1 SCA-1* Dua-1* CEN-1* COL-1 NWF-1 NW -1* Ser-5* Kot-1* SWC-1* Pat-4*
2 Richardson, Mike 92 SWR-2 Ike-5* Dua-2 Cas-1 COL-3* Ser-4* Kot-4* Pat-1
3 Brocks, Peter 88 SWR-1 Ike-2 Ser-3* Kot-2 SWC-2
4 Jones, Geralyn 82 SWR-3 MM-5* SCA-2 Hur-1 NAT-3* NWF-2 NW -2*
5 Clapp, John 72 MM-2 Hat-1 Lac-1
6 DeLoach, Don 51 Ike-4 CEN-2 COL-2
7 Rousseau, Don 45 Lac-2 Har-1
8 Mathews, Tony 38 MM-3 Ser-2
9 VanNest, Kurt 36 Ike-3 Pat-2
10 Ghio, Walt 32 Ser-1 Pat-5
11 Matsuno, Chris 28 NAT-1
12 Lorbiecki, John 25 Bro-1
12 Gerspacher, David 25 I-C-1
14 Jahnke, Ross 23 NAT-2
15 Murphy, Jerry 20 Cas-2
16 Pykelny, Mike 15 Dua-3
16 Allen, Carrol 15 Lac-3
16 Fedor, Mike 15 SWC-3
16 Davis, Mike 15 Pat-3
16 Ewing. Rick 15 Kot-3
21 Markos, Chuck 13 NAT-4
22 Guest, Bernard 12 MM-4
23 Joyner, Louis 8 NAT-5
24 Fitch, Jerry 7 SWR-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 6 1
Ike 3 2
NAC -x- 3
MM 2 4
SCA 3 5
SAN 1 6
NCA -x- 7
Srn -x- 8
Dua 2 9
Spe -x- 10
Sky -x- 17
Cas 1 11
Hcu -X- 12
Hat -x- 13
CEN 1 14
COL 1 15
Hur -x- 18
Can -x- 19
FFF 0 20
Lac -x- 17
NAT 5 21
NWF 3 22
NW 2 23
I-C -x- 16
Bro -x- 24
Rck -x- 25
Har -x- 27
USF 0 26
TCC -x- 28
Ser 2 30
Kot 2 29
SWC 1 31
Sim -x- 32
Pat 3 33
AZC 0 34
F1H
1 Jensen, Blake 100 SWR-4* Ike-1 MM-1 SCA-2* Dua-1* CEN-1 COL-1* NWF-1 Ser-2* Kot-1* SWC-1* Pat-3*
2 VanNest, Brian 81 SWR-3 Cas-1 NWF-3* NW -2 Pat-2
3 Parker, Jim 76 SWR-1 Ike-3* SCA-1 SAN-1 Dua-2* Pat-1*
4 Bauer, Ken 66 SWR-2 NWF-2 NW -1
5 McKeever, Mike 46 SWR-5 Ike-2 MM-2
6 Jones, Kyle 40 SCA-3 Ser-1
7 Hack, James 25 NAT-1
8 Fedor, Mike 20 NAT-2
8 Lane, Robert 20 Kot-2
10 Powell, Chuck 15 NAT-3
11 Reuter. William 10 NAT-4
12 Reuter. Wes 5 NAT-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 3 1
Ike 3 2
NAC -x- 3
MM 1 4
SCA -x- 5
SAN -x- 6
NCA -x- 7
Srn 2 8
Dua -x- 9
Spe 1 10
Sky -x- 17
Cas -x- 11
Hcu -X- 12
Hat 2 13
CEN -x- 14
COL -x- 15
Hur -x- 18
Can -x- 19
FFF 0 20
Lac -x- 17
NAT 6 21
NWF -x- 22
NW 1 23
I-C 1 16
Bro 1 24
Rck -x- 25
Har -x- 27
USF 0 26
TCC -x- 28
Ser -x- 30
Kot -x- 29
SWC -x- 31
Sim -x- 32
Pat 3 33
AZC 0 34
F1J
1 Parker, Faust 100 SWR-1 Ike-2* MM-1 Srn-1 Spe-1 NAT-2*
2 Roberts, Mike 50 Ike-1 NW -1
2 Lorbiecki, John 50 I-C-1 Bro-1
4 Mennano, Guy 41 Ike-3 NAT-4 Pat-3
5 Fedor, Mike 36 SWR-2 NAT-3
6 Mennano, Neal 26 NAT-1
6 Hooke, Drake 26 Hat-2 NAT-5
8 Rounsaville, Dave 25 Hat-1
8 Kerger, Terry 25 Pat-1
10 Jim Parker 20 Srn-2
10 Perkins, Daryll 20 Pat-2
12 Schneider, Glenn 15 SWR-3
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 3 1
Ike 4 2
NAC 4 3
MM 5 4
SCA 1 5
SAN 1 6
NCA 1 7
Srn -x- 8
Dua -x- 9
Spe -x- 10
Sky -x- 17
Cas 3 11
Hcu -X- 12
Hat 3 13
CEN 2 14
COL 2 15
Hur -x- 18
Can -x- 19
FFF 0 20
Lac -x- 17
NAT 5 21
NWF -x- 22
NW -x- 23
I-C 1 16
Bro 1 24
Rck -x- 25
Har 1 27
USF 0 26
TCC -x- 28
Ser 4 30
Kot 4 29
SWC 2 31
Sim -x- 32
Pat 1 33
AZC 0 34
F1Q
1 Tarcher, Ben 100 SWR-3* Ike-2* NAC-3* MM-4* SCA-1 SAN-1 NCA-1 Cas-1 NAT-4* Ser-1* Kot-4* Pat-1*
1 Sifleet, Bob 100 Ike-3* NAC-2* MM-3* NAT-1 I-C-1 Bro-1* Ser-3* Kot-1 SWC-1
3 Murphy, Jack 95 SWR-2 Ike-1 NAC-1 MM-1* Cas-2* CEN-1* COL-1 NAT-2* Ser-2* Kot-2* SWC-2*
4 Ioerger, Tom 80 SWR-1 Ike-4 NAC-4* MM-5* Cas-3* CEN-2 COL-2 Ser-4* Kot-3*
4 Schlosberg, Aram 80 MM-2 Hat-2 NAT-3 Har-1
6 Ivers, Dick J 25 Hat-1
7 Wegener, Richard 20 Hat-3 NAT-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR -x- 1
Ike 6 2
Cal -x- 3
MM -x- 4
SCA 4 5
SAN -x- 6
NCA -x- 7
Srn -x- 8
Dua -x- 9
Spe -x- 10
Sky -x- 17
Cas 5 11
Hcu -X- 12
Hat -x- 13
CEN 3 14
COL -x- 15
Hur -x- 18
Can -x- 19
FFF 0 20
Lac -x- 17
NAT -x- 21
NWF -x- 22
NW -x- 23
I-C -x- 16
Bro -x- 24
Rck -x- 25
Har -x- 27
USF 0 26
TCC -x- 28
Ser 6 30
Kot 6 29
SWC -x- 31
Sim -x- 32
Pat -x- 33
AZC 0 34
F1E
1 Ioerger, Tom 82 Ike-2 Cas-4 CEN-1 Ser-1 Kot-5*
2 Richardson, Mike 67 Ike-4 SCA-4* Cas-3 CEN-2 Ser-4* Kot-2
3 Terzian, Fred 51 Ike-3* SCA-1 Kot-1
4 Sifleet, Bob 47 Ike-1 Ser-2
5 Brocks, Peter 37 SCA-3* Cas-5 Ser-3 Kot-3
6 Parsons, David 31 Ike-5* SCA-2 Ser-5* Kot-4
7 Greening, Jack 25 Cas-1
8 McKeever, Mike 20 Cas-2
9 Pangell, Rick 15 CEN-3
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 7 1
Ike 5 2
NAC -x- 3
MM 5 4
SCA 2 5
SAN 1 6
NCA 2 7
Srn 1 8
Dua 2 9
Spe -x- 10
Sky -x- 17
Cas 5 11
Hcu -X- 12
Hat -x- 13
CEN 5 14
COL 5 15
Hur -x- 18
Can -x- 19
FFF 0 20
Lac 3 17
NAT 15 21
NWF 2 22
NW -x- 23
I-C -x- 16
Bro -x- 24
Rck 5 25
Har 2 27
USF 0 26
TCC -x- 28
Ser 6 30
Kot 6 29
SWC 1 31
Sim 2 32
Pat 1 33
AZC 0 34
F1S
1 Murphy, Jack 101 Ike-3* MM-5* Cas-4* CEN-3* COL-4* NAT-2 Rck-1 Ser-3* Kot-1 SWC-1
2 Parker, Julie 100 SWR-2* Ike-1 MM-1 Srn-1 Sim-1
3 Mecham, Allan 66 SWR-4 Cas-3 CEN-4* COL-1 Rck-3
4 DeLoach, Don 65 Ike-5 CEN-2 COL-2 NAT-3 Rck-4*
5 Tarcher, Ben 55 Ike-4* SCA-1 SAN-1 Cas-5 Ser-5* Kot-5*
6 Sifleet, Bob 50 NAT-1 NWF-2
7 Gannon, Bill 45 Ike-2 MM-3* SCA-2* Dua-1 Ser-2*
7 Murphy, Jerry 45 Cas-2 NAT-5 Rck-2
7 Hooke, Drake 45 Lac-1 Har-2
7 Norvall, Larry 45 NWF-2 Pat-1
11 Brooks, Clint 42 Ser-1 Kot-3
12 McGuckin, Derek 41 MM-2 Ser-3* Kot-2
13 Avia, Yuda 40 Lac-3 Har-1
14 Gannon, Bill 36 NWF-1 Kot-4
15 Etherington, Chuck 30 CEN-1 COL-5
16 Morris, George 26 SWR-1
17 Vanderbeek, Bill 25 NCA-1
17 Morris, George 25 Cas-1
17 Masterman, Paul 25 NCA-1
20 Pangell, Rick 20 CEN-5 COL-3
20 Bartick, Dick 20 Dua-2
20 Ivers, Dick J 20 Lac-2
20 Voss, George 20 Sim-2
24 Donnelly, Robert 16 SWR-3
25 Ray, Ralph 15 NAT-4
26 Guest, Bernard 10 MM-4
27 Hines, Lee 6 SWR-5
28 Reynolds, Todd 5 Rck-5
29 0
29 No. of entrants 0